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Re: The Real Romney

Postby mizzoujack » Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:30 pm

He most certainly did..it's a miracle that he pushed the healthcare bill thru and actually has a plan to get us out of these wars that are crippling our economic outlook for future generations. The Bush "trickle down" theory didn't work and it's exactly what Romney, Rove and Ryan are advocating. :twisted:
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Re: The Real Romney

Postby rabihorcada » Mon Sep 03, 2012 7:17 pm

I just get discouraged.

It just seems like all my life the US has gone back and forth, with endless wars and that the country has just gotten so mean and so desperate and that with all that desperation, it has gotten more stupid and more willing to do uglier and uglier things. But that is the way of humans. It is easy to be benevolent and kind and fair and just when you have nothing to lose. Just try it when your back is against the wall and your babies are crying with hunger.

It is unfortunate that the elections are not about ideas and policies, but instead they are manipulations of emotion for the most part. They are about plain everyday kinds of bullshit, pure lies, and spin. People don't really have the time, the energy, the drive, or the interest to sort out the reality, so they pick a side that makes them feel good and go with that. Then when you get in office, you do whatever will keep you there. You cannot start with manipulation and end with truth. That only happens in the movies.

Obama has done a few things that I think are a step forward, but he just moved the war scene a little bit further east and a little bit further off the front page. His new healthcare plan is probably a small step in the right direction, but it is vulnerable and muddy and probably won't really help most of us who are racing against the winds of disease that are trying to knock us down. Oh well, I've kind of lost faith in medicine anyway. Healthcare seems to have lost its way in the same respects most of modern life has. Freedom and choice and beauty and quality of life are secondary to the mechanistic beeps that give us our clues about how to live and how to die.

I really don't blame Obama for much at this point. The economic situation is a giant ponzi scheme gone wild and there are winners out there calling the shots. In my book, once a corporation is declared a person, all is lost to the era of science fiction anyway.

The Supreme court is kind of an interesting wild card. Congress is exactly the opposite - dull, tame and not a card in sight. The presidency? It has become more Hollywood than Beverley Hills. A place where surface sparkle, sexy, and false image reign like never before. The checks and balances have lost their fiber and only produce constipated farts at this point.

Anyway, maybe I am just naive. If that is the case, then all is right with the world. Go Democracy! Go, team, go. Rah rah rah!
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Re: The Real Romney

Postby beebs » Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:06 am

On my trip to Amsterdam and Frankurt, a few weeks ago, I found Europeans have lost confidence in Obama, as I have. They have their own problems they are looking on solving, but think Romney will be better for them. They think Obama just goes on talking and bullshit, and things keep getting worse. They believe trade will be much improved with a change.
And I voted for the guy Obama, and got taken in. I am a democrat, but changing to independent.

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Re: The Real Romney

Postby GeckoS » Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:33 am

I talked with a friend in LA yesterday that owns a small business. Asbestos abatement. If you want to remodel in Ca. chances are you will need this type of business. The last time I talked with him his business was on the ropes. Now he is working 7 days a week. Everyone I know and their kids are working. In my small sample things are better. Beebs is worried about the big picture. All we can do is slow the greedy bastards down. That is why I am voting against Romney.
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Re: The Real Romney

Postby jrdwdw » Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:37 pm

beebs wrote:On my trip to Amsterdam and Frankurt, a few weeks ago, I found Europeans have lost confidence in Obama, as I have. They have their own problems they are looking on solving, but think Romney will be better for them. They think Obama just goes on talking and bullshit, and things keep getting worse. They believe trade will be much improved with a change.
And I voted for the guy Obama, and got taken in. I am a democrat, but changing to independent.

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Well Beebs, perhaps you should have talked to more than those two people.... :lol: :lol:

Does World Want Romney or Obama?

By Bruce Stokes, Director of Pew Global Economic Attitudes, Pew Research Center

Special to CNN

At the Republican National Convention scheduled to take place this week and the Democratic National Convention beginning September 3, Americans will notionally be choosing their candidates for president of the United States. Effectively they will be deciding who will be the leader of the world for the next four years.

The world’s citizens get no say in this choice. Nevertheless, people outside the United States have definite opinions about Obama and some of the key issues in the campaign: about the state of the economy and what to do about it, climate change and how they think Washington should treat them.

Neither the GOP nor the Democratic nominee is likely to shape his electoral message to the American people to please foreigners. In fact, if he did, it would probably hurt his chances of winning.

But either challenger Mitt Romney or incumbent President Barack Obama is going to be the next U.S. president. And experience shows that the success or failure of his foreign policy may depend, in part, on how it is perceived abroad. So what people around the world think going into the final two months of the U.S. presidential campaign does matter, if not on November 6, then for the next four years.

Europeans have had a four-year love affair with Barack Obama: 87 percent of Germans, 86 percent of French and 80 percent of the British have confidence in Obama, according to a 2012 poll by the Pew Research Center’s Global Attitudes project. In each case this is higher than public confidence in their own national leader. And 92 percent of the French, 89 percent of the Germans and 73 percent of the British want Obama reelected.
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Re: The Real Romney

Postby beebs » Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:24 pm

Of about 60 people I talked with in business gatherings, Cafe Hoppe and Luxembourg, 80% really favored anyone but Obama. Only the socialist leaning people liked Obama, and were concerned about their getting everything without putting much effort on BUILDING IT THEMSELVES, and didn't like America. They refered to Mrs. Obama in saying FINALLY I HAVE RESPECT FOR AMERICA, showing her real respect the family really had for this country.

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Re: The Real Romney

Postby jrdwdw » Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:21 pm

beebs wrote:Of about 60 people I talked with in business gatherings, Cafe Hoppe and Luxembourg, 80% really favored anyone but Obama. Only the socialist leaning people liked Obama, and were concerned about their getting everything without putting much effort on BUILDING IT THEMSELVES, and didn't like America. They refered to Mrs. Obama in saying FINALLY I HAVE RESPECT FOR AMERICA, showing her real respect the family really had for this country.

Thanks!

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Well that says it. I will take your "60" person poll over PEW every day of the week. :roll:
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